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明けましておめでと, which means "Happy New Year" in Japanese :D! I don't know if you guys knew this but New Year's is a big deal in Japan! I would say that I think it's the most important festival throughout the year. This is really weird for me because in Italy none really cares about New Year's XD. Like, most of the time you meet with friends and just hang out until it's midnight and celebrate drinking wine ahah. To me the way Japanese people celebrate New Year's is the way we Italians celebrate Christmas. That is, staying home from work/school, finding banks and shops closed, staying with family, eating a lot, etc. I was also surprised with Japanese New Year's because all banks were closed and I was left with no money and no way to get some XD.

That said, how are you guys? My vacation was awesome. Me and Mea forced ourselves not to work or draw or do anything related to it for 3 weeks because we felt like we overdid things for 3 months before Christmas up to the point were our health was in danger. I have actually read a lot about this on the internet. Like many artists getting sick, losing hair or having stomach pain because of too much work. Does this happen to you? I think the main issue with me and my sister is Japanese working rhythm (what the hell is with this word O.O? Like it's made only of consonants XD), which is "always" and the fact that not being in an office that closes at a certain point we never "close" -___-. But now we are back yey! I feel energized by vacation and Italian food. A lot of food. :)

 

Well well, let's go back to my manga (sad) story up to the point were I got my manga "Elisa" rejected for the second time -___-. If you haven’t read the previous part of my adventure here in Japan and you wish to, you can find them here: Part 1- Part 2  Part 3 Part 4 - Part 5 - Part6.

If you guys remember I went to show my first real "well" done manga to a shoujo magazine and got rejected for all kinds of reason that made no sense to me at the time. However, the editor I met said the drawing was good even if not suitable for their magazine and he understood my story was different from usual Japanese manga stories also because I come from a different culture. So he suggested I would go show it to another magazine instead, which literally claimed to be "too innovative". I have known Japanese people for a while now and I know that their idea of innovative most of the time is "slightly different from regular" but I thought I had nothing to lose. I went there with no hope though and I think that was good because at least I didn't feel like I wanted to kill anyone when they said my manga was not ok. 

So, I was given the number I was supposed to call and I did. I made an appointment and went there (it was a different publisher). This time the editor was a girl and I thanked god in my mind because to me the way Japanese girls talk is so much easier to understand than the way man talk XD. She was extra nice. She took me to the "Room of Judgment" and this time there was none else beside us. I set quietly as she read the manga. Thank god they always give me one of their magazine to "read" in the meanwhile so that I don't have to look at them and their facial expressions as they look at my work XD. When she finished I could see she was "surprised" by my work. It happens all the time. The art style is different from usual, the story, the characters and everything else is different from usual. She said the manga was not ok mostly because the story is clearly for kids while that magazine was for adults also. However, she said that this new magazine was also a lot about art. I remember her saying "this is a magazine that people interested in art buy too". So basically she told me that she thought the magazine might have been "right" for me. Because it was innovative and art played a big part and apparently my manga are innovative and the best thing about them is art. So she gave me this advice : she told me to read 1 chapters manga from Japanese people (she gave me specific titles) and make a new manga following (I think the idea is "copying" though) their style an go show it again to her. I think she really meant it because when I went there again (next post) she did remember me. She was really nice so I decide to be honest with her and I told her I thought "Elisa" was good and I thought people would like it if it was a series. Like, I could understand their point when they said there were many "things" I didn't "close" in those 30 pages but if I was given a chance to make more, such as other chapters, I could have "closed" them right? So I said "how about making it a series then" XD? I still don't know where I found the courage to ask her that. And try guess my surprise when she said "it might work as a series". O.O. @.@. Excuse me? Can you say that again? I was shocked. They just said all sorts of bad things about my manga to tell me then that it might work a series?! Are you kidding me? She specified it might work as a series also because when you get a series the editor that follows you gives you advices so basically as a series they could have changed whatever they wanted to make it "right" since they know better. I didn't know what to say (especially in Japanese XD) so I asked her straight forward "are you telling me that if I win the competition with a one chapter story you might serialize my Elisa manga after even if only with your changes in it?". And she said "yes, that might happen".  That comment she made changed nothing since I still didn't win the contest or get a series published. However at that time it meant the world to me. It made me really happy because I felt like I was getting some credits for my Elisa manga because they said it might have worked with their changes in it. That is also the reason why I still haven't published it online. 

What to say? I wasn't surprised my manga was rejected again because I think that Japanese editors carry the same ideas most of the time. I say this because I get told the same things by whomever I meet. However, after this meeting at first I was excited because I thought "at least I have a magazine now". Knowing there was a magazine that might have been suitable for me made me happy. But after this I made a huge mistake. Something I regret even this day. But I have to tell you, it was something I have come to think I needed to do in order to understand a very important thing that is… I will tell you in next post ;P!

Be patient and I will sadly tell you all about the disaster I made in my 3rd manga. :(.

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*Question Corner*

 I remember I asked some time ago, is it better to make digital or traditional manga? Well, now I have my answer. Digital. Digital. Digital. And digital. -___-. Me and my sister made a shonen manga (that for some reason I haven't shown yet -_- I am going at the beginning of February) and we made it ALL traditional : pencil, ink and screentones. I was given 500 $ of screentones for free by an amazing person so we thought we would try to do it traditionally. Also because I think editors want me to even if they never said so clearly. It took 10 times what it took making it digitally. Putting screnntones by hand is the hell of a work while it is way easier with a software. And fixing mistakes is such a waste of time -__-. I am really happy with the result but boy, it took long!!

Have you guys ever tried making a manga 100% traditionally? Did it take you forever like for us?

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Frogsnack Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2014
Hmm, I used to use sakura micron or copic markers for linework, but when I switched to the g pen it halved my drawing time... (however there was that one, no make that two massive ink spills- but that's what I get for inking on an angled desk).

Screen tones could be worse, I actually make a lot more mistakes with photoshop even though I have tried several things... in the end I shade with a pencil half the time.

Anyways! Glad to hear it! That you're closer to your goal! Also- that your goal is worth reaching and is teaching you along teh way, that's a good thing, right? If it was easy you'd already be doing something else, and finding something more challengeing, right? (just assuming).... so keep at it!
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MeaMostro Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2014  Professional General Artist
Hi! Thank you for finding the time to read my post and comment :D!
So using G pen is faster after all! Aaaaa I hate it when ink spills!!
Pencil shades are also the best looking to me!

Thank you, I will be here fighting then :)!! Thank you for your kind words and encouragement! 
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MANJY Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014
HAHAHA! Sorry when you wrote "at least I didn't want to kill anyone for saying my manga was not ok" cracked me up lol! That's so something I would say as well hahaha

Just out of curiosity, why do you find Japanese girls easier to understand? And why do you think editors like traditional more?

Wow that is really good news! I'm so happy for you to know that now you finally have a magazine - you know, it's like a turf for mangakas right HAHA! From your stories, I come to realize that finding a suitable magazine for you is everything. Without the correct one, nothing will work out and it doesn't necessarily mean your art sucks, which is the most soothing thing to know for every artist. 

But then now that I have seen more of your art, I guess I understand the what editors have been saying till now. Your art is amazing no doubt (I can tell the how much effort you put into it), but then it's not a very stereotypical style in Japan. I guess that's why even though you have been wanting to debut in shoujo magazines it hasn't been working. Also, from what this girl editor said about how your story seems to be more targeted to teen girls while your art is more mature, that's quite a valuable lesson actually (well I feel at least). Because this shows that art and story must somehow work as a team, you get what I mean? It's not like you can just draw whatever style you want and pair it up with whatever story you can come up with. And like what the editor said, your art style is more suitable for adults so your story needs to be for adults too. 

In a way, what I just said isn't great news I guess, because it means you either have to 1) change your art to match it with the shoujo/shounen genre or 2) you have to make a brand new story with a different target audience. So have you thought about that? 

Once again, thanks for the wonderful update!!! Please keep us updated! ^^ I see you have a lot of fans out here hahaha


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MeaMostro Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2014  Professional General Artist
Ahahah, it's easy to feel like killing someone for not liking your work after you put so much effort in it XD!

Well, girls tend to use polite Japanese (the "masu" thing) which is what I use at school so I am used to hear it. Plus they speak slowly. And finally the speak as I do so I get it easier. On the other hand men speak fast, most of the time not clearly and often change the last part of words making it quite difficult for me to understand it easily. What about you? Do you understand them equally?

I think that editors prefer traditional because for example they really like when the inked lines are all different. Of course you could do that digitally too but if you do it traditionally you don't need to do an effort for the lines to be different. I mean, we are human so we can't make line identical if we are drawing with our hands, so it is natural for them to come out all different. This is just one example though. I just feel like all the advices they give me wouldn't be necessary if I was making it traditionally :).

I agree. Sometime your art not being suitable for a magazine doesn't mean your art is no good. But I wish there was a guide or something to pick the magazine XD.

I totally get what you are saying... it was a lesson for me too. It's just that when you are just thinking and dreaming about making a manga you feel like there is so much freedom into doing your own thing and then after you talk with editors you realize that is not it at all. There is freedom but there are also many rules. Rules for drawing, rules for your story and rules for the 2 of them to work together. I think this last year trying to publish manga changed me and my sister so much. We realized that if you want to make a living with art you need to stop thinking like "I am an artist and I do what I feel". It's much more complicated. Now I understand too why the editor send me in the shonen direction. I can feel how is much more suitable for us, not only for the art but for the story as well. I just wished it didn't take me this long to realize that.
Well, we actually have definitely said goodbye to shoujo. But it wasn't that sad because we realized we like what we do now better. We made a shonen manga that take place in a desert and has action and adventure and making it was fun. I am waiting for my friend to take me to the publisher (the story was so complicated I couldn't translate it myself, so I need my translator to come along this time) and see what they say ;).

You are very welcome, it's always a pleasure to hear your interesting thoughts and suggestions ^V^! They really help me :)!




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MANJY Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2014
Exactly lol!

Oh I see! Well originally, I was really used to the masu thing and find it very hard to change verbs to dictionary form, but then now I'm actually more dictionary form (so casual way of speaking) which is bad because I didn't want to accidently speak in casual form to my Japanese teacher (which I often did but later on tried more consciously not to - he doesn't really care because in Canada, Japanese people are really relaxed about rules and all)... And I actually do like them talking to me in casual form more because I feel like we're like more friends talking rather than in a formal context. But anyway most of the time I can't really control which form I use well (with I'd say 70% being casual) because I just say whatever pops into my head first haha! 

Sorry for rumbling on haha, but I don't find girls easier to understand than guys haha! But obviously no dialects please. I met these people with very strong kansai dialect and speak very fast before and I couldn't understand more than 50% of what they were saying. But I get you, speaking fast makes everything hard to understand. >< 

If that's the case then from your observation, do you think most mangas are done traditionally? But I think I prefer if it is done traditionally too, like I prefer not seeing shading that is done digitally.

Yea, hearing you say that is quite an eye opener. Just like what you said, people would think art is a form of expression so must be unique and you are free to do anything but the thing is, that is not the case at all (at least for manga). But then again, if you think objectively, maybe having rules and rights and wrongs could be a good thing too. At least that way you know if you are on a right track, and if not put you on one. 
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prusce Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thanks for the udate, it's really helpful and interesting to read about your experiences :D I'm looking forward for the next part. Keep it up! :dummy:
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MeaMostro Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014  Professional General Artist
Thank you again for finding the time to read my journal and write a comment ^V^! People's support is what keeps me going ^V^!
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prusce Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You're welcome! I like reading your posts :D
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LBV-Loveless Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2014  Student General Artist
Oh the suspense! Arrghh i can't wait to find out what happened in part 8. xD 

I would very much like to see your entirely traditional manga. I've always liked the idea of doing everything by hand, but i can't really tell if a manga i read is traditional or digital. Any clues on what to look for so i could tell? 
I suppose i should learn how to make manga digitally. 

Anyway, as always, good luck on your journey! ;)
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MeaMostro Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2014  Professional General Artist
I am not thrilled to write about what happened next though XD!

Really? Well, if it doesn't win the contest I might publish it online ^V^. Or I could upload just one page or something to show you guys. I am actually really happy with how it came out. It is really pretty and looks definitely more like a real manga ^V^. However, it really did took forever to make it @ .@.
I think that you can guess by looking at the ink and the screentones but I wonder if I myself would be able to tell XD.
Well, many people still think it's better to make them all traditionally so you don't necesseraly have to learn how to make them digitally. However, I think that digital is more convenient so I think it might be a good idea to learn :).

Thank you! Can't wait to tell you guys some good news ;)!
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LBV-Loveless Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2014  Student General Artist
Oh noes! D: I still can't wait. xD

A page would be fine. Just curious to see how it turned out. ;) I actually hardly know anything about how to make manga like the pros what with all the effects, tricks of the trade, etc, etc. I often notice effects as i read manga and ask myself "how the hell do they do that?!". Haha But anyway, "convenience" is a good enough reason to do digital i think. Thanks for the tip! :D
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MeaMostro Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014  Professional General Artist
Ahah, I know!! Me too, before learning how to make manga I was like "how did they do that?" all the time XD!! 
Yes, I think that if you have a dead line and have to draw for money "convenience" might be a very good reason! It's better to give your product done digitally but on time that traditionally but 1 month later, right :)? Even many Japanese mangaka have a very hard time with dead lines and there is a famous mangaka that quit because she couldn't make her manga on time and she felt like she was causing trouble to the publisher -__-.
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LBV-Loveless Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014  Student General Artist
Wow, someone really quit because of that? Damn, that's a shame. :( I wonder if that's why some manga take forever to release chapters... I always thought it had to be weekly. :O (Then again, i read most of my manga online translated into English which takes time, which could be the reason..) 
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MeaMostro Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2014  Professional General Artist
Yes, there are many! Sometimes they are just super famous so they just draw 1 chapter ever now and then XD. For example I have heard that the manga HunterxHunter kind of works that way. Like last year only 2 chapters or something were published. I have no idea why though! Then I remember also reading that the mangaka of the shoujo manga "Orange" stopped publishing because she couldn't respect her dead line. I was really said to hear that because it was actually a really good manga! But you are right, it is a shame! I would kill myself before throwing a chance to be mangaka because of dead line! I mean, I would rather work day and night! 
Most manga are monthly, so it's like 30 pages in around 30 days. Basically you have to make a page every day! However some mangaka have like 4-5 assistants so I guess that would be a great help!
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hinoai Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2014  Professional Artist
I'm glad that you used them! :) Sorry that it's not working out, but whenever you want, just hit me up on chat and I'm happy to cheer you up. :)

I'll put you in my magazine when I'm ready to start production! It won't be for a few years, though, I don't think. >.>; So ganbatte in the mean time!
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MeaMostro Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2014  Professional General Artist
Yes, they were really useful :D!! Thank you again for giving them to me *V*! I still have to show the manga I used them for to a an editor so maybe they will be of good luck ;)!

Well, things have been getting better (the things I am talking about in this post happened last June XD) so I keep hoping I will manage to get published. But it's good to hear I have a virtual shoulder to cry on if things don't go the way I wish them to. I would love to be in your magazine >.<! Actually, I can't wait for it to be on sale!
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Catiminy Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014  Hobbyist
At least you had a good point for your manga, it means that you're on the right track somehow. I hope you're going to make it at last. ^^
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MeaMostro Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014  Professional General Artist
Thank you :D
Ahah, at least I keep getting more on the right track right :)? My first manga was a total disaster in every way but with this Elisa manga I was told it might work as a series with the editors' changes so it looks like I am getting better at this even if not enough quite yet ^V^.
Having people cheering for me and saying they hope I am going to make it gives me a lot of energy so thank you *///* :D!!
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starca Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Ah, lavorare tutto il giorno senza "chiudere" mai... quella e' una delle cose che non capisco come si puo' fare. Anche se ci provo, quando qualcosa non va bene con la salute, faccio una pausa lunga il doppio in confronto al tempo dedicato al "lavoro". Adesso che parlo per esempio, sono 4 giorni che l'indice della mano non lo sento bene e sono un po in "panic mode"
Per le pagine, non ho mai provato a fare un manga 100% tradizionale. La ragione e' che non avevo mai tutti i materiali giusti per farlo. E adesso ormai il digitale mi da tante possibilita di piu in confronto :P.
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MeaMostro Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014  Professional General Artist
Fai bene a fare pause lunghe per stare meglio :( questa cosa rischia di diventare pericolosa :(. Ma come dicevo nel post, ho cercato in internet e ci sono tante persone che arrivano allo stremo delle forze e perdono i capelli e cose simili O.O. Per fortuna io e Mea non siamo a quei livelli ma arriviamo a essere cosí esauste da sentirci svenire O.O. Peró ovviamente la salute va prima di tutto quindi dovremmo sforzarci di mantenere ritmi di vita salutari. Mi dispiace per il tuo indice!! Ma cosa é successo? Cioé ti sei fatta male proprio o hai disegnato troppo?

Guarda ti capisco... se non mi avessero regalato 0129398487489 fogli manga e screentones forse nemmeno io avrei provato a farlo tutto tradizionale XD! Digitale tutta la vita :P!
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starca Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Ho disegnato troppo T_T Fa ancora male *sob* Ora faccio tutto con le altre dita X'D

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MeaMostro Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2014  Professional General Artist
Oh mamma! Ma sei andata dal medico a farti controllare? 
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starca Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Tutto quel che posso fare per adesso e' riposare le mie mani piu' che posso T-T. Qual cosa di simile mi e' gia' successa una volta, quindi credo che con dei massaggi e un lungo riposo deve guarire. Sta gia meglio infatti ma non e' ancora del tutto ok.
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MeaMostro Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014  Professional General Artist
Ah, ho capito. Accidenti peró che sfortuna che hai avuto ad avere un problema proprio alle mani :(! Cerca di riposare e spero che tu ti rimetta presto al 100% :)!
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starca Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
grazie mille :hug:
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OgawaBurukku Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014  Professional General Artist
I do all my comics traditionally, with traditional screen tone. I think it's more rewarding to do it this way because it teaches you to be less lazy and editors are more impressed to see the physical copies on their table. With digital you don't always get the same printed as how it looked on the computer, and I think you become top dependent on the "undo" options. It took me a long time in the beginning but now it doesn't take me that long to ink and cut tones. My story FaLLEN is all traditional:FaLLEN Ch. 4 Page 8-9 by OgawaBurukku  
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MeaMostro Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Professional General Artist
I do think too that editors like it better when it's traditional even if none of them ever said so to me ^V^. I still think both options are good :). But now I understand why mangaka keep assistants XD!
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D-structive Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014

Buon anno! X3

E..Woah! E' una buona notizia! Probabilmente piacete a quell'editrice..Tenetevela stretta, se potete. (Se si ricorda di voi, è buona cosa.)

 

Circa il manga tradizionale.....Bhe..E' cosa impegnativa, secondo me..So che solo alcuni "maestri" fanno -e possono fare- manga con tecniche totalmente tradizionali. Sono anche artisti famosi, a volte.

Quindi occhio..Per me, di questi tempi, il digitale è la tecnica migliore da adottare.

 

Per il resto..Buona fortuna con il prossimo manga! XD

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MeaMostro Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014  Professional General Artist
Buona Anno :)!! (Sono Martina)

Dici? Perché all'inizio ho pensato che magari si ricordava di noi per il fatto che siamo italiane XD nel senso che non penso vedano molti stranieri nella "Stanza del Giudizio" ahah. Peró me la tengo stretta lo stesso XD chissá che magari le piacciamo anche XD!

Guarda, veramente! Io e Mea ci siamo quasi pentite di aver provato a fare tutto tradizionale! Solo che eravamo solo io e lei qui a Tokyo quindi avevamo tutto il tempo e in piú ho ricevuto tipo 200 fogli di screentones gratis quindi ce li avevo lí e abbiamo pensato di provare. Devo dire che il risultato é bello peró ora capisco perché i mangaka si tengono 5-6 assistenti alla volta ahah! Sinceramente se dovessimo farne un altro (nella sventurata ma probabile ipotesi che anche questo non vinca -___-) non so cosa faremo.
Si si, concordo! Photoshop tutta la vita!!

Ahah, grazie. Per ora in veritá non ne stiamo facendo (ecco spiegati tutti i nuovi disegni che postiamo qui XD) peró quello shonen che abbiamo fatto (quello tutto tradizionale appunto) é finito! Questa volta vado con una mia amica giapponese perché i dialoghi non sono riuscita a farli io (erano troppo difficili :() quindi deve esserci anche lei nel caso l'editore chieda specificazioni sui dialoghi o cose di questo genere. Quindi purtroppo devo aspettare che lei abbia un pomeriggio libero e in Giappone i pomeriggi liberi non esistono -__-. Pensó che riusciremo ad andare solo alla seconda settimana di febbraio. Giusto intorno al mio compleanno O.O. Tanto per rovinarmelo XD!
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D-structive Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014

Anche a te! XD

E bhe, forse..Secondo me, anche il fatto che siete italiane aiuta..Vuoi mettere? Magari si dice "Le autrici sono italiane! E' un'innovazione!".

Voi tenetevela stretta..In fondo vi ha dato una nuova speranza, dicendo che Elisa, come serie, potrebbe starci. Chissà..

 

E bhe, avete fatto bene a provarci, ma è un lavoraccio che -secondo me, eh..- verrebbe preso in considerazione, solo se fatto da qualche artistone famoso, o mangaka noto..Poi chiaro..Se vi è venuto bene, lo considerano di sicuro..Ma sai come sono i giappi..Una linea sbagliata e ti corocifiggono in sala mensa..

Per altro...Visto che si parla di linee..Avete mai preso in considerazione quel programma chiamato SAI? Io cell'ho *coughcoughscaricatoillegalmentepassatomidaun'amicacoughcough* e devo dire che per fare le linearts è una manna.

Io uso quello per le linearts e photoshop per colorare..Ve lo consiglio, se avete modo di provare..Poi han parlato bene anche di quel programma chiamato "manga studio"..Che in pratica dovrebbe simulare perfettamente lo stile dei manga, appunto..Però ho solo sentito voci..Non l'ho mai provato...Anche perchè credo costi mille milioni e non sono certa che si possa trovare in internet..Ma chissà che non siate fortunate..

 

E..Io intendevo..Buona fortuna, con la prossima prova/tentativo/colloquio con redattori/ducaconti ecc..XD

Riposatevi, finchè potete!

E..Compleanno in febbraio pure tu? Auguri in anticipo, allora. XD

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MeaMostro Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014  Professional General Artist
Oh, finalmente posso parlare in italiano XD. Non capisco perché ci sono mille commenti in inglese e tipo 2 in italiano... sono italiana e nessuno in Italia fa il tifo per me -___-, che amarezza!

Anche io in cuor mio avevo sperato che la cosa dell'innovazione di essere italiane mi avrebbe aiutata ma finora non é stato cosí assolutamente. Sinceramente, gli editori mi sono sembrati molto onesti in questo. Nel senso, se tu fai qualcosa che vende non gliene potrebbe fregare di meno di cosa sei XD potresti anche essere un alieno credo XD. Al contempo, se il tuo lavoro non vende non ti pubblicano neanche se sei la Regina Elisabetta secondo me XD!

Ahahahah! Ma si, noi abbiamo provato, adesso sentiamo cosa dicono ;). In realtá giá l'ultima volta mi avevano detto che considerando solo il disegno ce lo pubblicherebbero, cioé per loro va bene come Mea disegna. E` sulla storia che dobbiamo lavorare. Infatti l'ultima volta (ti faccio un anticipo sui prossimi post XD) ci ha detto che la storia andava bene, cioé non c'erano "errori" o "cose che mancavano", ecc. Ma non era comunque una storia sensazionale. Era una storia che andava bene ma loro cercano storie sensazionali. 

Davvero? Noi non lo abbiamo mai provato! Allora diró a Mea che dobbiamo provarlo. Ma quanto costa? 92897487548 euro come photoshop XD?
Anche manga studio non l'ho mai provato.... chissá com'é!

Si, il mio compleanno é l'8 febbraio :D! Grazie per gli auguri :)!!
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D-structive Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014

Ovvio. XD

Io conoscevo una manciata di italiani, qui..Ma a parte due o tre, gli altri hanno migrato su tumblr, perchè gli admins di DA sono degli incapaci..:dummy:

Bhe, se non altro sto imparando l'inglese..XD

Questo è vero. E' anche vero però, che le loro storie -a parte rare eccezzioni- sono più o meno tutte uguali alla fin fine. (Vedi dragon ball, vedi one piece, vedi narut, vedi Jojo..Giusto per citarne alcuni.XD Cambiano solo disegni e contesto. Poi è sempre la stessa roba alla fin fine.)

E...Vedrete che prima o poi ve la prendono..Abbiate pazienza.

E guarda, a me avevano passato un link in cui potevo scaricarlo bellamente..Solo che non posso passarlo pure a voi, perchè lo hanno rimosso. :/

Poi ti dico che se cerchi bene-bene, lo trovi anche gratis online. -voglio dire..Un mio amico mi ha scaricato da non so dove photoshop CS5- quindi volendo potete provare a cercarlo.

Personalmente, trovo che per le linearts sia molto bello. Ha anche diversi tipi di pennelli che danno effetti diversi. (tipo acquerelli, pennarelli, aerografo ecc..) PERO'! per colorare A ME, personalmente fa ca*are. Poi sono io che non son capace, ma per quello, trovo che photoshop sia più veloce.

Il costo non saprei dirtelo..PRESUMO che sì..Essendo un programma grafico, costicchi abbastanza. Ma da quanto ne so, puoi trovarlo davvero facilmente online.

Circa mang studio...Non l'ho provato manco io, ma dicono tutti sia bellissimo. E quello sì che costa millemila euro. Ma forse anche quello, se cercate bene online..Non saprei..

Però ho visto lavori strafighi..Per dire..Potete fare robe simili, con quello..www.deviantart.com/?q=mangastu…

E auguri di nuovo, allora. XD

Il mio compleanno era ieri, invece!

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MeaMostro Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2014  Professional General Artist
Ah, capisco! Effettivamente deviantArt ha delle cose che sono superate da anni! Per esempio per mettere le immagini nei journal devi passare un sito tipo imagehost -___- fare una cosa piú semplice no?
Io non sono in grado di capire come funziona tumblir XD!! 

Ahah, l'inglese é molto utile XD!

Si infatti, nei manga sempre le stesse cose trite e ritrite e guai a fare qualcosa di nuovo perché é un rischio!

Guarda in Giappone é meglio non scaricare niente perché se ti beccano che scarichi un film ti tolgono internet (e ti assicuro che é vero perché mi é successo -____-)!
Ahahah, ecco meglio non saperli i prezzi XD!

Cavoli ora vorrei provare manga studio!

Grazie per gli auguri e auguri anche a te in ritardissimo!!!
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D-structive Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2014

Ma guarda..Più che per quelle cose lì -che oltretutto io non so fare, perchè sono totalmente incapace ad usare computers ecc..XD-, quelli che conoscevo, se ne sono andati per via di ladri d'arte, trolls e bulli vari. Persone regolarmente riportate ai signori admins, i quali si son quasi sempre ben guardati dal fare qualcosa, nonostante le lamentele degli utenti.

(Per dire..Io so di una tipa francese che è una ladra d'arte, che ricolora cose, che ha cercato di vendere lavori fatti da altri, che nonostante sia stata riportata più e più volte, è acora qui con tutti i suoi CINQUE accounts. Vedi te..Aveva rubato pure a me, ma dopo incazzatura mia e minaccia di report ha tolto tutto. Per poi postarlo sul suo account facebook. Come se non potessi venirlo a sapere.. =w= )

Circa Tumblr...Bha...A me pare stupido. Voglio dire..A parte l'essere -penso- meno sicuro di DA, sul fattore ladri d'arte..Poi principalmente, da quel che ho visto, tu passi la vita a ripostare cagate, GIFs animate, robe di altri e a volte robe tue, che altri riposteranno....E' stupido.

E sì..Poi saperlo bene è un altro discorso..XD

E vero..Saranno anche autori diversi, ma alla fin fine resta sempre la stessa storia con ambientazioni e personaggi diversi..*coughcoughcough vediquellarobcciadiinuyashaperesempio..ugualearanma..coughcough..*

Davvero? O_o Ti levano addirittura internet? Madonna, che è? Magari vedere i film in streaming è meglio che scaricarli..

(Io ieri sera mi son guardata  Frozen in streaming e sono ancora online..XD)

Circa mangastudio..Guarda..Quello SO per certo che è costosissimo..Ma dicono in tanti che sia molto bello..

Grazie e auguri -in ritardo- anche a te! XD

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MeaMostro Featured By Owner May 13, 2014  Professional General Artist
Ciao cara! Scusa se ho ritardato cosí tanto a rispondere ma il Giappone mi succhia la vita come sempre!

Ma stai scherzando?! Ma come gli admins non la tolgono?! Sono sconvolta. Mi spiace che sia successo anche a te :(!

Effettivamente io Tumblr ancora adesso non sono riuscita a capire come usarlo e ho lasciato perdere XD. 

Ahahahaha, si al plagio incondizionato diciamo XD.

Si si, te lo tolgono internet, sono matti!! Cioé in realtá sono nel giusto XD e dovrebbe essere cosí anche in Italia peró non me l'aspettavo!
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Yuuricchin Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
omg, you make me so anxious for the next part of the story x3
I know making a manga 100% traditionally is a LOT of work, but personally I like this way more because it gives the manga a different feel, you know what I'm saying? x3 Some mangaka nowadays only work traditionally and some only digitally, while others combine those two.
So yeah, I can't wait for the next part, hehe
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MeaMostro Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014  Professional General Artist
Ahah! Well, next part will be kind of depressing -___- I am not looking forward to write it XD!
You are right, it's really a LOT of work! Now I understand why mangaka use a lot of assistants too XD! Yes, traditionally made manga are more "manga" right :)? I agree with that ^V^!

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Yuuricchin Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh, I see >.< I hope you'll still manage to write it, even if it's depressing ;o;
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